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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 2 Apr 96 Volume 14 : Issue 83
Today's Topics:
[*] TidBITS#322/01-Apr-96
(Q) DOS to MAC/online banking
7.5.2 -> 7.5.3 Comments?
800x600 on your Mac in Sys 7.5.3 [A]
[A] Bypass Mac Internal HD on Boot-up
[Fwd: PC Magazine Insults Apple Computer In Article]
Apple AAUI-Thinnet Adapters
Apple Menu Options problem fix
Clogged HP Cartridge (R)
Extension order loading
Help - Teleport Gold II modems
Help with slight ResEdit miscue
Houdini virus?
Language for learning? [A]
LaserWriter Bridge and OT-FIXED!
Mac 7500 and bursty SLIP
Microsoft to buy Apple!? (2 msgs)
Powerbook 520 vs Update 2.0
PowerMac 7100 and built-in video
Problem with Battery
Q - Preventing processor slow down on Powerbook 5300
Q: Apple microphones
Quota (The Network Applacation Manager).
System 7.5.3 Tips page
Unable to change certain Eudora Pro 2.1.4 settings
unsit for Unix
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:21:06 -0800
From: [email protected] (TidBITS Editors)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#322/01-Apr-96
TidBITS#322/01-Apr-96
Besides wishing Apple a happy birthday, this issue takes a look at
how to order System 7.5 Update 2.0 on CD-ROM and Open Door's Home
Door multihoming software for Web servers. Also this week, we
have information on QuickDNS Pro, a new math library for Power
Macs, and a "preview" edition of Netscape Navigator 3.0. Finally,
we finish up with part 2 of our interview with Darryl Peck.
Topics:
MailBITS/01-Apr-96
Searching for the System 7.5 Update 2.0 CD
Open Door Enables Multihomed Web Servers
InterviewBITS with Darryl Peck, Part 2 of 2
Reviews/01-Apr-96
[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-322.etx; 30K]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:31:42 -0600
From: [email protected] (Lars Christian Jensen)
Subject: (Q) DOS to MAC/online banking
Dear Info-Mac fellows
Does some of you have any experience with online banking in a
DOS-environment using a Mac? Can I use TCP/PPP for connecting and then
switch to DOS, or do I need special DOS-software also for connecting?
Could you recommend a suitable software (commercial-/share-/free-) for
running DOS on a Mac (my system: 840 AV, 7,1, Geoport - none DOS-card)
Thanks for any help
PS: Lots of thanks to Graham Herrick, Nils Dahl, John Feinberg, Mustafa
Ziyalan, Dan Bustillos, Paul Koch, ABRODY and Jan B Schipmolder for great
advise regarding my previous question on Netscape problems!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:50:21 -0800
From: [email protected] (Randall K Petersen)
Subject: 7.5.2 -> 7.5.3 Comments?
This letter is an open request to Info-Mac subscribers for comments on the
wisdom of updating 7.5.2 to 7.5.3.
Last Christmas, I upgraded my system from a Mac IIsi running 7.0.1 to a
PowerWave 604/132 running 7.5.2. I was lucky that I had the next week off
work! This major change was accompanied by a plethora of arcane and
terrible new system errors, extension conflicts, and broken applications.
Like many others, I spent innumerable hours sifting through Info-Mac,
TidBITS, Usenet, MacSense, Macintouch, CCC, etc, for advice, and then
tossing out some items (with Suitcase, as one source put it, "all hell
broke loose" under 7.5.2), finding updates for many other items (almost
anything from Symantec, for example), and adding several Apple patches. As
others had also discovered, Open Transport 8 KBps downloading a
binhexed file from the net via a 21600 modem connection (he didn't say if
the file was compressed, though). This would be several times faster than
the best I can get over a 288 modem with MacTCP! Is this kind of speed
reproducible?
TIA for your help. I'm sure others are asking these same questions (or
they should be). Please either reply to Info-Mac or email me directly, and
I will be happy to post a summary of responses.
Randy Petersen
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:51:35 -0500
From: Aaron Vegh
Subject: 800x600 on your Mac in Sys 7.5.3 [A]
In response to my query about changing the monitor resolution on my
Multiscan 15 after installing System 7.5.3, Mitchell Tsai wrote...
>
>After you open the Monitors control panel, hold down the option key
>when you click "Options...".
>
>This should give you the 800x600 option (assuming you didn't change
>monitor adapters).
>
He was intuitively correct in this analysis.
Thanks, Mitchell!
Aaron Vegh
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:14:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Thomas Basil
Subject: [A] Bypass Mac Internal HD on Boot-up
> I have an external hard drive with a System folder on it that I'd like to
> use to boot the SE/30 but the SE/30 insists on trying to boot off of it's
> internal hard drive. I *think* I remember reading somewhere that there was
> a key that you could hold down during startup to make a Mac ignore an
> internal hard disk for situations like I have. Does anyone know if this is
> true and what key it is that I should hold down?
Mike -
Try Command-Option-Shift-Delete at bootup. This should cause the Mac to
skip booting from the internal Hard Drive. It will instead try to boot
>From SCSI devices in high to low sequence order.
- Tom Basil, US Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:20:27 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-"
Subject: [Fwd: PC Magazine Insults Apple Computer In Article]
If you suffer from low blood pressure, you might wish to read the
following briefing which was sent to me and visit the suggested links.
Otherwise, move on. ;>)
--Larry Rymal
==========
PC Magazine Insults Apple Computer In Article
---------------------------------------------
PC Magazine has managed to insult Apple and it's users (including me) with
a very one sided article entitled "Will We Miss Apple When It's Gone?".
The writer starts off on the right foot basically stating Apple is dead
right now, then goes on to call Apple a company that "sold so much hooey to
end users.". This prediction of doom, the statement of "Should We Care?"
and the "No doubt a bitter group of Macintosh users will feel the sting of
Apple's demise". This article is a prime example of how bias of a writer
can come into play when it deals with a hot topic. PC Magazine should be
ashamed of publishing this article.
You can view the article at:
Be sure to drop them a line at if this article has angered
you as much as it has angered me. And to think, this comes from the same
company that publishes MacUser!
I'd like to thank @Home
Mac, where I first saw a link to this article.
--0-1188855707-828397227=:11598--
[I saw that article the other day -- Evangilist had it -- I couldn't tell if
it was meant to be an editorial or an article. It seemed way to biased to
be an article... Perhaps it is a column? And what is this about "starts
of on the right foot" by "stating Apple is dead"?
-Gordon]------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 19:21:57 +0200
From: [email protected] (David Steiner)
Subject: Apple AAUI-Thinnet Adapters
Hi!
I need some input from someone out there with a bit of network saavy.
We just bought some Mac 7200/90s that we want to connect to our ethernet
which is 10Base-2 (Coax) Thinnet. In order to do this, we needed to buy
AAUI to Thinnet transceivers. The ones that come from Apple have 2 BNC
connectors. The idea is, simply plug the transceiver into the cable
instead of a T-connector something like what is shown below. The
transceivers are also self-terminating which makes life real easy for many
folks.
To PM AAUI To PM AAUI
Connector Connector
| |
| |
_|_ _|_
Thinnet | | | |
############[| |]###########[| |]
|___| |___|
Apple Tranceiver Self-terminated
Apple Tranceiver
It is this self-terminating feature which causes problems for me. We
connect our machines to the backbone using an AMP drop cable system.
When we plug a drop cable into the wall connector, the backbone is
"broken" and then signal flows up and back through drop cable which has
a BNC connector that is plugged into the transceiver or network adapter.
I have tried to show this as best I can within the limits of ASCII art.
||
-----
Tranceiver | |-----------To PM AAUI Connector
-----
|| From the German authorities and have been back ordered for over a month.
Bummer, they were a bit cheaper as well.
TIA,
David R. Steiner - Research Assoc.
-- ISPA -- University of Vechta -- Germany ---
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:03:42 +0200
From: Bo Bjulen
Subject: Apple Menu Options problem fix
In Info-Mac diges #80, Bob Jones wrote:
>I didn't try to re-install, but my 6100/66 crashes in Office, WITH
>the recommended patches, unless I disable Apple Menu Options Control
>Panel (use the Extension Manager to do this.)
I probably missed the original question but I've found that
trashing Apple Menu Option's preference file (in the Preference
Folder withing the System Folder) has helped me. In the end I
preferred to disable it too when I run 7.5, 7.5.1 and 7.5.2 but
it's a workaround if you want to use the control panel.
Now I've installed 7.5.3 and haven't had this problem--yet.
Bo
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 08:52:14 CST
From: Pat Ullmann
Subject: Clogged HP Cartridge (R)
>Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 01:59:23 -0500
>From: [email protected] (Philippe L. Valiquette)
>Subject: Clogged HP Cartridge
>The title is self explanatory. Occasionally, for a clogged cartridge, I
>will use a damped cloth, clean the copper-like tip, plus the ink basket and
>the little flap residing inside the Deskwriter. Failed yesterday... Usually
>works. The cartridge is halfway through. Is there a way to rescape this one
>[with rubbing alcohol, I don't know].
Hi, Philippe.
I don't know about an HP cart, but I got mad at a Stylewriter cart one
day when it came out of the box brand new with clogged jets, and poured
rubbing alcohol straight out of the bottle on to the print end of the
cart (I'm sure it's got a technical name). Ink fountained up and ran
down the sides of the cart, and when it dried off it worked great.
(Of course, do this with the cart *out* of the printer.)
I don't necessarily recommend doing this unless you have tried every
other, more "safe" way to clean it, but if you're gonna throw it out
anyway what have you got to lose?
Hope this helps.
Pat
Pat Ullmann ([email protected])
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 00:58:05 +0000
From: Neil Kresal
Subject: Extension order loading
Does anyone out there know of any shareware that allows you to re-order
the loading of your extensions? I know I can solve an extension conflict if I
can just re-order the loading order (long story). Help???
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 03:47:26 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Help - Teleport Gold II modems
I was wondering if you could help me. Recently, I updated my Mac Performa
5200 to System 7.5.3. Now, my TP Gold II modem doesn't seem to want to work
properly, especially with the communications program of ClarisWorks. My Gold
II software is version 2.5.6, and the problem I am having consists of my not
being able to shut off the sound. Through various message boards I have
learned that some people have experienced problems with faxing. I don't do
much of this, so I haven't found out whether or not my computer is affected.
Please send me whatever information you have on the subject of compatibility
between System 7.5.3 and Global Village Teleport Gold II v2.5.6.
Thank you,
Jason Sears
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:45:54 -0800
From: [email protected] (Julius Friede)
Subject: Help with slight ResEdit miscue
In just starting to play with ResEdit, I attempted to personalize the
"Welcome to Macintosh" startup screen. It didn't work quite as expected,
but that is not the problem. I did backup the System Update file (whew),
but cannot change the name from "System Update copy" to its original name.
Any help in fixing this cosmetic anomaly would be appreciated.
TIA,
Julius
[email protected]
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 08:05:26 -0800 (PST)
From: [email protected] (eric kuhnen)
Subject: Houdini virus?
Gentlepersons,
Not knowing where else to begin looking, I wonder if you might be able to
answer a question for me: Is there any such thing as the Houdini virus, and
if so, what program eradicates it? I discovered a .houdini process running
on my Mac and I don't know what it does. My copy of Disinfectant is 3.6
and it doesn't mention this as a virus that it knows about.
Thank-you for taking a moment to help me.
Sincerely,
Eric Kuhnen
------------------------------
Date: 1 Apr 1996 16:42:29 U
From: "Matt Neuburg"
Subject: Language for learning? [A]
> From: Phil Hudson
> >* Frontier is a complete development environment. It includes a =
debugger,
> >online documentation, and a wealth of hundreds of verbs (funtions).
>
> I dispute the "online documentation" part (nothing else). The only doc
> which comes with the freeware release is something culled from a very
> hacker-oriented article from MacTech magazine about 3 years ago. There
> is a serious lack of true online docs
This is just not true. DocServer (comes with Frontier, or download it =
>From the Aretha site) provides true integrated online help for every =
"verb", copious examples, etc.
-- matt n.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:42:13 -0800
From: [email protected] (Bob Durst)
Subject: LaserWriter Bridge and OT-FIXED!
This is the cure for all of us with the incompatablity of Laserwriter
Bridge and Open Transport. Works just fine for me (7100av and now 7.5.3).
Many Thanks to Caleb Clauset for this. It is available in the archives.
------
The following is from the patch readme:
About this patch=8A
This patch will make the necessary change to LaserWriter Bridge to allow it
to work with Open Transport. It will NOT work on versions of LaserWriter
Bridge prior to 2.0.1.
This patch is a HACK. It is NOT supported by Apple Computer, Inc. so please
don't ask them for technical support. Apple Computer, Inc. will have an
updated version of LaserWriter Bridge that is compatible with Open
Transport soon, but until then this patch should work. Please read the
legal stuff before you apply this patch.
Legal stuff=8A
The Author makes no warrantee as to the correctness, usefulness, or fitness
for any particular purpose of the patch. The Author further disclaims all
responsibility for damage to your computers, networks, or data or those of
third parties, as well as all other damages, including incidental or
consequential damages, arising from your or others' use of this patch. By
using or redistributing this patch, you assume all responsibility for the
results of your use or redistribution.
Caleb Clauset
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
[email protected] (Caleb Clauset)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cclauset
-Bob D.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:03:47 +0200
From: Bo Bjulen
Subject: Mac 7500 and bursty SLIP
In Info-Mac Digest #81, Anne Harwel wrote:
>Anyone out there have any experience with a 7500/100 running 7.5.3 and
>InterSLIP? I saw one recently that was running in a very bursty
>manner. SLIP packets would flood in, during which time it was almost
>impossible to move a window, switch to the desktop, anything. Finally
>it was discovered that if the user waited until the modem lights went
>off, one could get to a menu, move a window. But when packets started
>flowing through the modem again, the machine froze. Once it froze in
>mod-windpw-zoom, another time froze in mid-menu-choice-blink.
Anne,
This is a known problem with InterSLIP with Open Transport and
perhaps with PCI Macs. InterCon has recognized it. If the user
needs SLIP, there are at least two alternatives that does work
with OT: MacSLIP and InterPPP. Both are commercial and in spite of
their name supports both SLIP and PPP. A free solution is FreePPP
but that requires a PPP connection.
Bo
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:50:48 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Microsoft to buy Apple!?
>
> What will the anti-trust folks have to say about this?
Answer: "April Fools"
Josephine Colmenares
[email protected]
[Geez. How could I have been taken in by this!?
-Gordon]------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:28:53 +0100
From: [email protected] (E. Hoenkamp, NICI.home)
Subject: Microsoft to buy Apple!?
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996, I'm not convinced yet. Edward.
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:35:54 -0800
From: troy
Subject: Powerbook 520 vs Update 2.0
I recently installed Sys 7.5 update #2 on my Powerbook 520 12 meg (+12
>From Ram doubler). I have found that if you wake the powerbook after
it goes to sleep you get an ERROR TYPE 8 message. After disabling all
extensions and non Sys 7.5 CP's I still got the error.
I tried reinstalling the update and still got the ERROR TYPE 8.
After I removed the System Update #2 the proble went away.
Obviously I can disable the sleep mode or lose the update but I doubt
this is the answer
Anyone else have this problem??
Any other suggestions besides reverting to update #1??
[email protected]
or [email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:53:21 -0500
From: Clinton Hyde
Subject: PowerMac 7100 and built-in video
due to what I believe is either a hardware or an O/S bug (i.e, it
works ok on my mac II with sys 7.1), it turns out I can't use my old
nubus mono video
so I'm investigating color monitors ofr my brandnew 7100. I'm looking on the web, too, but that seems incomplete.
if you have one which IS NOT made by apple, what brand/model are you
using ? what resolutions does it support ?
please reply direct to [email protected]
-- clint
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:45:15 -0500
From: [email protected] (John Hocker)
Subject: Problem with Battery
Following is my question. Do you know where I could send it to get a good
response?
I have a Powerbook DuoDock 250 with a battery that is completely dead. The
Powerbook would not charge the battery either while docked or using a power
adapter. I bought a new battery to see if it might be the battery, but no
help.
I inherited this system as I took over the organization that owns it. It
was in San Francisco and I moved it to Washington, DC. When the Mac
arrived in the mail it was in this condition. The person who had it
said that it was working when last used.
How do I get the Powerbook Duodock to charge the battery??
Thanks.
John R. Hocker 202.331.3506
Executive Director Fax: 202.265.8504
NSTMF 1818 N St. NW, Washington, DC 20036
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:50:17 EST
From: [email protected]
Subject: Q - Preventing processor slow down on Powerbook 5300
Does any one know how to prevent the processer from slowing down on a
Powerbook 5300? I am trying to run some simulations on one and if the
cursor is not moving, the cpu slows down. I've tried looking at all the
different control panels and none seem to prevent this. I was also
unable to prevent the Powerbook from going to sleep during the simulation,
despite setting the control panel option to never sleep. Have others
experienced this problem?
Thanks in advance for any advice you are willing to give.
Cheers,
Ron Etter
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 08:49:46 +0200
From: [email protected] (Thomas H Eberhard)
Subject: Q: Apple microphones
I intend to use the sound in/output ablilities of the Macintosh to measure
the frequency response of a couple of loudspeakers. Primary I and to use
the Appletalk mike I got with my LCII. Is there anyone who have clue about
the response of this mike?
Any reasonable response errors can be corrected for if they are nown, but I
have unable to locate any usefull information on the Apple Web site. (That
includes the tech papers).
Thomas H Eberhard
Klinisk Mikrobiologi
Karolinska Sjukhuset
S 171 76 Stockholm
VOX 08-729 49 72
FAX 08-729 58 50
E-M [email protected]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:39:58 -0500
From: [email protected] (Marc Dionne)
Subject: Quota (The Network Applacation Manager).
I'm looking for the company who support the software Quota (The Network
Application Manager). I need to upgrade my current version.
Does it still exist?
Does somebody can give me an email address, URL location, phone number or
fax number?
Thanks in advance.
Marc Dionne Email: [email protected]
Universit du Qubec Trois-Rivires Tlec: (819) 376-5153
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:56:43 -0500
From: [email protected] (North Star Computer Ltd.)
Subject: System 7.5.3 Tips page
I've put together a collection of tips for installing System 7.5 Update 2.0
(System 7.5.3), which you may wish to peruse before going ahead with the
update:
http://www.norstar.on.ca/System-753/tips.html
These pages are updated regularly (sometimes many times a day, as new tips
and corrections are added), so check back now and again...
Julian Daniel
[email protected]
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:50:31 -0800
From: [email protected] (Mike Blackwell)
Subject: Unable to change certain Eudora Pro 2.1.4 settings
When I reply to a message in Eudora Pro 2.1.4, it inserts a phrase like:
"At 07:14 3/29/96, The Info-Mac Moderators is rumored to have typed:"
...ahead of the quoted material. Try as I might, I cannot edit or delete
this line in any way: all changes to this setting (in the Attributions
window of the Settings file) are ignored when the window is closed.
Similarly (and I just noticed this while diagnosing the first problem), in
the Stationery/Text setting window, I cannot change the Quote string: "> "
(I want to get rid of the space after the ">"). Changes to other settings
_in the same window_ are accepted, but the Quote string refuses to update.
The quote string in my Internet Config 1.2 is ">", so I know Eudora isn't
pulling it from there.
Changes to all other Eudora settings and prefs _appear_ (I didn't test
every item in every window) to be saved correctly: only the above two items
(that I've found so far) refuse to accept changes. Eudora Light 1.5.3 did
not have either of these problems: it accepted all the changes I made.
I hesitate to trash my Eudora prefs file, as I have many custom settings
not covered by Internet Config, and am looking for a workaround (ResEdit
hacks are okay). I haven't done a conflict check or any extensive fiddling;
it would take at least an hour, whereas it only takes five minutes to write
this message and find out if someone else has already spent an hour.
FWIW, I have a PowerBook 540, 12/340, 7.1.1 + Update 3.0, and the usual
gang of suspect Extensions and Control Panels (far too many to list). TIA!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:02:44 -0500
From: [email protected] (Kostas Oikonomou)
Subject: unsit for Unix
Does anyone know where I can find unsit (a utility to uncompress .sit files)
for
Unix? I was told it existed on sumex-aim.stanford.edu, but it isn't there any
more.
Please e-mail me directly.
Thanks.
Kostas Oikonomou
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:43:32 -0500
From: [email protected] (Daw-hwan Wang)
Hi, netters,
I have a question for all of you the knowledgeable.
I read Info-Mac Digest with Easy-View. As I finish reading & quit Easy
View, a message pops up asking if I'd like to save it. I answer Yes as
always. But recently I can't. After I press return to allow Save, another
message pops up which reads: "Sorry, but a disk related error (I/O
Error--bad media?) has occurred." Then I can quit without saving. Next time
I want to save, the same story goes on. What should I do to correct it?
Thanks.
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